From k8mp at aol.com  Sat Jul  1 11:08:41 2017
From: k8mp at aol.com (k8mp at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2017 12:08:41 -0400
Subject: [OhQP-mail] EOC category
Message-ID: <15cfee9490b-57cd-d988@webprd-a05.mail.aol.com>

Gents,
Does operating from a Red Cross facility qualify for the EOC category?

 Thanks, Joe, K8MP

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From aa8ta at fischerhome.org  Sat Jul  1 13:02:52 2017
From: aa8ta at fischerhome.org (Joe Fischer)
Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2017 14:02:52 -0400
Subject: [OhQP-mail] 2016 Scores: what does activity by county mean?
Message-ID: <162E6E09-92F1-403B-9686-58CA9E2367C4@fischerhome.org>

I must not be understanding something - looking at the tail end of the report for the 2016 OQP, where it lists scores by county, in Franklin County, the number of CW Qs is lower than what I am listed for.  I live in Franklin County.  Also, the 2 of us who live in Franklin County; our QSO count is greater than what is shown for Franklin County.

For Delaware County, I added up 1,768 QSOs from the individual results and the county report shows 1,057.

I guess some counties counts might be higher because of mobiles or rovers?  Doesn?t seem to be a way to see what counties were activated by non-fixed operators.

I guess I?m missing something.

TU es 73 de Joe AA8TA




From k8mp at aol.com  Sat Jul  1 13:34:02 2017
From: k8mp at aol.com (k8mp at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2017 14:34:02 -0400
Subject: [OhQP-mail] 2016 Scores: what does activity by county mean?
In-Reply-To: <162E6E09-92F1-403B-9686-58CA9E2367C4@fischerhome.org>
References: <162E6E09-92F1-403B-9686-58CA9E2367C4@fischerhome.org>
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Something doesn't right Joe. And I find it hard to believe that there were that many mobile and rover QSOs made from DELA.
We'll have to see what the contest guys say.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Fischer <aa8ta at fischerhome.org>
To: OhQP-mail <OhQP-mail at ohqp.org>
Sent: Sat, Jul 1, 2017 02:19 PM
Subject: [OhQP-mail] 2016 Scores: what does activity by county mean?


I must not be understanding something - looking at the tail end of the report for the 2016 OQP, where it lists scores by county, in Franklin County, the number of CW Qs is lower than what I am listed for.  I live in Franklin County.  Also, the 2 of us who live in Franklin County; our QSO count is greater than what is shown for Franklin County.

For Delaware County, I added up 1,768 QSOs from the individual results and the county report shows 1,057.

I guess some counties counts might be higher because of mobiles or rovers?  Doesn?t seem to be a way to see what counties were activated by non-fixed operators.

I guess I?m missing something.

TU es 73 de Joe AA8TA



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From jimk8mr at aol.com  Sat Jul  1 15:41:16 2017
From: jimk8mr at aol.com (Jim Stahl)
Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2017 16:41:16 -0400
Subject: [OhQP-mail] 2016 Scores: what does activity by county mean?
In-Reply-To: <162E6E09-92F1-403B-9686-58CA9E2367C4@fischerhome.org>
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The activity by county numbers are the numbers of QSOs in the logs received.

In other words, QSOs made by a Delaware county station with people who do not send in a log are not counted.

73  -  Jim   K8MR


> On Jul 1, 2017, at 2:02 PM, Joe Fischer <aa8ta at fischerhome.org> wrote:
> 
> I must not be understanding something - looking at the tail end of the report for the 2016 OQP, where it lists scores by county, in Franklin County, the number of CW Qs is lower than what I am listed for.  I live in Franklin County.  Also, the 2 of us who live in Franklin County; our QSO count is greater than what is shown for Franklin County.
> 
> For Delaware County, I added up 1,768 QSOs from the individual results and the county report shows 1,057.
> 
> I guess some counties counts might be higher because of mobiles or rovers?  Doesn?t seem to be a way to see what counties were activated by non-fixed operators.
> 
> I guess I?m missing something.
> 
> TU es 73 de Joe AA8TA
> 
> 

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From jimk8mr at aol.com  Sat Jul  1 15:43:39 2017
From: jimk8mr at aol.com (Jim Stahl)
Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2017 16:43:39 -0400
Subject: [OhQP-mail] EOC category
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Off the top of my head I am not sure, but if the facility would count as an EOC for Field Day (Class F) I suspect it would count for OhQP.


73  -  Jim



> On Jul 1, 2017, at 12:08 PM, k8mp--- via OhQP-mail <ohqp-mail at ohqp.org> wrote:
> 
> Gents,
> Does operating from a Red Cross facility qualify for the EOC category?
> 
>  Thanks, Joe, K8MP
> 



From k8cc at comcast.net  Sat Jul  1 17:29:51 2017
From: k8cc at comcast.net (David Pruett)
Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2017 18:29:51 -0400
Subject: [OhQP-mail] EOC category
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To count as an EOC for Field Day or MiQP, the operation must take place from a facility the had been designated as an EOC. 

While it would seem logical that a Red Cross center could be an EOC, but being the former doesn't necessarily make it the latter.

I think it is against the intent of the FD rules to simply declare any old building to be an EOC.  I think EOCs are identified by the local ARES authorities for that county.

Of course the OhQP leadership have the prerogative to define EOCs any way they see fit, at the risk of making the catagory ludicrous...

Dave,K8CC

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> On Jul 1, 2017, at 4:43 PM, Jim Stahl via OhQP-mail <ohqp-mail at ohqp.org> wrote:
> 
> Off the top of my head I am not sure, but if the facility would count as an EOC for Field Day (Class F) I suspect it would count for OhQP.
> 
> 
> 73  -  Jim
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 1, 2017, at 12:08 PM, k8mp--- via OhQP-mail <ohqp-mail at ohqp.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Gents,
>> Does operating from a Red Cross facility qualify for the EOC category?
>> 
>> Thanks, Joe, K8MP
>> 
> 
> 
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From k8mp at aol.com  Sat Jul  1 18:28:34 2017
From: k8mp at aol.com (k8mp at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2017 19:28:34 -0400
Subject: [OhQP-mail] EOC category
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The Red Cross building is now our county ARES HQ. We had to move out of the EOC, due to space limitations.
In our case then, it would appear the Red Cross qualifies.

Thanks, Joe, K8MP

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-----Original Message-----
From: David Pruett <k8cc at comcast.net>
To: Jim Stahl <jimk8mr at aol.com>
Cc: k8mp <k8mp at aol.com>; ohqp-mail <ohqp-mail at ohqp.org>
Sent: Sat, Jul 1, 2017 06:30 PM
Subject: Re: [OhQP-mail] EOC category


To count as an EOC for Field Day or MiQP, the operation must take place from a facility the had been designated as an EOC. 

While it would seem logical that a Red Cross center could be an EOC, but being the former doesn't necessarily make it the latter.

I think it is against the intent of the FD rules to simply declare any old building to be an EOC.  I think EOCs are identified by the local ARES authorities for that county.

Of course the OhQP leadership have the prerogative to define EOCs any way they see fit, at the risk of making the catagory ludicrous...

Dave,K8CC

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 1, 2017, at 4:43 PM, Jim Stahl via OhQP-mail <ohqp-<a href="mailto:mail at ohqp.org">mail at ohqp.org</a>> wrote:
> 
> Off the top of my head I am not sure, but if the facility would count as an EOC for Field Day (Class F) I suspect it would count for OhQP.
> 
> 
> 73  -  Jim
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 1, 2017, at 12:08 PM, k8mp--- via OhQP-mail <ohqp-<a href="mailto:mail at ohqp.org">mail at ohqp.org</a>> wrote:
>> 
>> Gents,
>> Does operating from a Red Cross facility qualify for the EOC category?
>> 
>> Thanks, Joe, K8MP
>> 
> 
> 
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From k8mp at aol.com  Sat Jul  1 18:36:47 2017
From: k8mp at aol.com (k8mp at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2017 19:36:47 -0400
Subject: [OhQP-mail] 2016 Scores: what does activity by county mean?
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Ah... That would 'splain it. 
Thanks Jim, and thanks for the RAC QSO.

Later. Joe
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Stahl via OhQP-mail <ohqp-mail at ohqp.org>
To: Joe Fischer <aa8ta at fischerhome.org>
Cc: OhQP-mail <OhQP-mail at ohqp.org>
Sent: Sat, Jul 1, 2017 04:41 PM
Subject: Re: [OhQP-mail] 2016 Scores: what does activity by county mean?



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<div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="aolReplacedBody"><div>The activity by county numbers are the numbers of QSOs in the logs received.

In other words, QSOs made by a Delaware county station with people who do not send in a log are not counted.

73  -  Jim   K8MR


<blockquote><div>On Jul 1, 2017, at 2:02 PM, Joe Fischer <<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:aa8ta at fischerhome.org">aa8ta at fischerhome.org</a>> wrote:<br class="aolmail_Apple-interchange-newline">
<span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;">I must not be understanding something - looking at the tail end of the report for the 2016 OQP, where it lists scores by county, in Franklin County, the number of CW Qs is lower than what I am listed for.  I live in Franklin County.  Also, the 2 of us who live in Franklin County; our QSO count is greater than what is shown for Franklin County.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;">For Delaware County, I added up 1,768 QSOs from the individual results and the county report shows 1,057.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;">I guess some counties counts might be higher because of mobiles or rovers?  Doesn?t seem to be a way to see what counties were activated by non-fixed operators.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;">I guess I?m missing something.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;">TU es 73 de Joe AA8TA</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"></blockquote></div>
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From n8xx at arrl.org  Sat Jul  1 18:44:14 2017
From: n8xx at arrl.org (Hank Greeb)
Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2017 19:44:14 -0400
Subject: [OhQP-mail] EOC category
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There are Emergency Operating Centers in Red Cross Facilities, in 
Salvation Army Facilities, in Municipal, County, and State Facilities, 
and in some private facilities.

A "portable" EOC can, and often is set up near a disaster site.

So, Lettuce Bee sure we don't get so tied up with one "type" of EOC that 
we neglect many of them.

For Eggzample, in Hamilton County, the County has an EOC, and Red Cross 
has an EOC.  Similarly, if, on the very, very, very rare situation that 
a wide spread communications emergency were to occur in Kent County, the 
county EOC, within the Sheriff's office, would be used, as would  those 
in the Red Cross, and probably the Salvation Army.

72/73 de n8xx Hg
QRP >99.44% of the time

On 7/1/2017 7:28 PM, k8mp--- via OhQP-mail wrote:
> The Red Cross building is now our county ARES HQ. We had to move out 
> of the EOC, due to space limitations.
> In our case then, it would appear the Red Cross qualifies.
>
> Thanks, Joe, K8MP
>
> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Pruett <k8cc at comcast.net>
> To: Jim Stahl <jimk8mr at aol.com>
> Cc: k8mp <k8mp at aol.com>; ohqp-mail <ohqp-mail at ohqp.org>
> Sent: Sat, Jul 1, 2017 06:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [OhQP-mail] EOC category
>
>
> To count as an EOC for Field Day or MiQP, the operation must take 
> place from a facility the had been designated as an EOC.
>
> While it would seem logical that a Red Cross center could be an EOC, 
> but being the former doesn't necessarily make it the latter.
>
> I think it is against the intent of the FD rules to simply declare any 
> old building to be an EOC. I think EOCs are identified by the local 
> ARES authorities for that county.
>
> Of course the OhQP leadership have the prerogative to define EOCs any 
> way they see fit, at the risk of making the catagory ludicrous...
>
> Dave,K8CC
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 1, 2017, at 4:43 PM, Jim Stahl via OhQP-mail 
> <ohqp-mail at ohqp.org <mailto:mail at ohqp.org>> wrote:
> >
> > Off the top of my head I am not sure, but if the facility would 
> count as an EOC for Field Day (Class F) I suspect it would count for OhQP.
> >
> >
> > 73 - Jim
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Jul 1, 2017, at 12:08 PM, k8mp--- via OhQP-mail 
> <ohqp-mail at ohqp.org <mailto:mail at ohqp.org>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Gents,
> >> Does operating from a Red Cross facility qualify for the EOC category?
> >>
> >> Thanks, Joe, K8MP
> >>
> >
> >
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From n8tfd at fuse.net  Sat Jul  1 19:28:24 2017
From: n8tfd at fuse.net (Steve Lewis)
Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2017 20:28:24 -0400
Subject: [OhQP-mail] EOC category
In-Reply-To: <CE8E9009-31A1-4E17-B8CE-9E43B6134ECD@comcast.net>
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Emcomm happens from places other than the ARES-designated EOC. (Says the 
orange badge-waving ARES appointee.)

I can't imagine it is the intent of the rules to *not* leverage "class 
F" for designated stations at Red Cross regions/chapters, Salvation Army 
(ie SATERN), state police bunkers (Massachusetts, distant by germane to 
the topic), and hospital systems.

My $.02.

-73-

On 7/1/2017 6:29 PM, David Pruett wrote:
> To count as an EOC for Field Day or MiQP, the operation must take place from a facility the had been designated as an EOC.
>
> While it would seem logical that a Red Cross center could be an EOC, but being the former doesn't necessarily make it the latter.
>
> I think it is against the intent of the FD rules to simply declare any old building to be an EOC.  I think EOCs are identified by the local ARES authorities for that county.
>
> Of course the OhQP leadership have the prerogative to define EOCs any way they see fit, at the risk of making the catagory ludicrous...
>
> Dave,K8CC
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 1, 2017, at 4:43 PM, Jim Stahl via OhQP-mail <ohqp-mail at ohqp.org> wrote:
>>
>> Off the top of my head I am not sure, but if the facility would count as an EOC for Field Day (Class F) I suspect it would count for OhQP.
>>
>>
>> 73  -  Jim
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jul 1, 2017, at 12:08 PM, k8mp--- via OhQP-mail <ohqp-mail at ohqp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Gents,
>>> Does operating from a Red Cross facility qualify for the EOC category?
>>>
>>> Thanks, Joe, K8MP
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> OhQP-mail at ohqp.org
>> http://mail.ohqp.org/mailman/listinfo/ohqp-mail_ohqp.org
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From k8mp at aol.com  Sat Jul  1 19:42:09 2017
From: k8mp at aol.com (k8mp at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2017 20:42:09 -0400
Subject: [OhQP-mail] EOC category
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Thanks for the input gents.
Who makes the final decision?

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To: ohqp-mail <ohqp-mail at ohqp.org>
Sent: Sat, Jul 1, 2017 07:50 PM
Subject: Re: [OhQP-mail] EOC category



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    <p>There are Emergency Operating Centers in Red Cross Facilities, in
      Salvation Army Facilities, in Municipal, County, and State
      Facilities, and in some private facilities.

      

      A "portable" EOC can, and often is set up near a disaster site.

      

      So, Lettuce Bee sure we don't get so tied up with one "type" of
      EOC that we neglect many of them.

      

      For Eggzample, in Hamilton County, the County has an EOC, and Red
      Cross has an EOC.  Similarly, if, on the very, very, very rare
      situation that a wide spread communications emergency were to
      occur in Kent County, the county EOC, within the Sheriff's office,
      would be used, as would  those in the Red Cross, and probably the
      Salvation Army.

      

      72/73 de n8xx Hg

      QRP >99.44% of the time

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    <div class="aolmail_moz-cite-prefix">On 7/1/2017 7:28 PM, k8mp--- via
      OhQP-mail wrote:

    
    <blockquote cite="about:blank">The Red
      Cross building is now our county ARES HQ. We had to move out of
      the EOC, due to space limitations.
      
In our case then, it would appear the Red Cross qualifies.
      


      
      
Thanks, Joe, K8MP

        

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        From: David Pruett <a class="aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:k8cc at comcast.net"><k8cc at comcast.net></a>

        To: Jim Stahl <a class="aolmail_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:jimk8mr at aol.com"><jimk8mr at aol.com></a>

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        Subject: Re: [OhQP-mail] EOC category

        

        

        To count as an EOC for Field Day or MiQP, the operation must
        take place from a facility the had been designated as an EOC. 

        

        While it would seem logical that a Red Cross center could be an
        EOC, but being the former doesn't necessarily make it the
        latter.

        

        I think it is against the intent of the FD rules to simply
        declare any old building to be an EOC. I think EOCs are
        identified by the local ARES authorities for that county.

        

        Of course the OhQP leadership have the prerogative to define
        EOCs any way they see fit, at the risk of making the catagory
        ludicrous...

        

        Dave,K8CC

        

        Sent from my iPhone

        

        > On Jul 1, 2017, at 4:43 PM, Jim Stahl via OhQP-mail
        <ohqp-<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:mail at ohqp.org">mail at ohqp.org</a>>
        wrote:

        > 

        > Off the top of my head I am not sure, but if the facility
        would count as an EOC for Field Day (Class F) I suspect it would
        count for OhQP.

        > 

        > 

        > 73 - Jim

        > 

        > 

        > 

        >> On Jul 1, 2017, at 12:08 PM, k8mp--- via OhQP-mail
        <ohqp-<a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:mail at ohqp.org">mail at ohqp.org</a>>
        wrote:

        >> 

        >> Gents,

        >> Does operating from a Red Cross facility qualify for
        the EOC category?

        >> 

        >> Thanks, Joe, K8MP

        >> 

        > 

        > 

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From k9tm at buckeye-express.com  Sat Jul  1 20:16:09 2017
From: k9tm at buckeye-express.com (K9TM)
Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2017 21:16:09 -0400
Subject: [OhQP-mail] EOC category
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The EOC category rules for OhQP and MiQP are identical.

EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER (EOC): Ohio entries located at an established EOC site, activated by an individual or group. An EOC category entry may utilize permanently installed equipment and antennas, or equipment/antennas temporarily installed at the EOC for the event. EOC entries are not categorized by the number of transmitters, the power used, or the number of operators. All EOC entries are classified as mixed mode.


Seems that whoever has the authority to designate an EOC site can decide if it is a governmental site or a non-governmental site or permanent/semi-permanent/temporary.

I don?t think we need to over think this.  The intention is to include EOC folks in the QSO party as it is beneficial to both groups.  The intention of the rule is that I can?t just designate my station or some location to be an EOC site and enter the EOC category.  If someone uses an established EOC site (hopefully with permission) or a site that the proper authorities deem to be an EOC site and coordinate with them, then it seems it would be OK.

<K8MP> Who makes the final decision?
The decision would be made by the OhQP committee.

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From wf5x at interserv.com  Sat Jul  1 20:37:08 2017
From: wf5x at interserv.com (wf5x)
Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2017 21:37:08 -0400
Subject: [OhQP-mail] EOC category
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Any site recognized by a local ARES group as a place that can be activated during a disaster or other declared emergency for support of emergency communications is considered an established EOC site.
A Red Cross chapter house, or even a shelter location, would be considered such given that a local amateur radio emergency communications group could set up a station there to meet emergency communication needs.
In Michigan, we just operated 2F during Field Day from the National Weather Service in Detroit/Pontiac. We are able to do so since the NWS is considered part of the facilities that need backup comms in the event of a weather related disaster.?
RandyWF5X?

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From: K9TM <k9tm at buckeye-express.com> 
Date: 7/1/17  9:16 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: Ohio QSO <ohqp-mail at ohqp.org> 
Subject: Re: [OhQP-mail] EOC category 

The EOC category rules for OhQP and MiQP are identical.
EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER (EOC): Ohio entries located at an established EOC site, activated by an individual or group. An EOC category entry may utilize permanently installed equipment and antennas, or equipment/antennas temporarily installed at the EOC for the event. EOC entries are not categorized by the number of transmitters, the power used, or the number of operators. All EOC entries are classified as mixed mode.

Seems that whoever has the authority to designate an EOC site can decide if it is a governmental site or a non-governmental site or permanent/semi-permanent/temporary.
I don?t think we need to over think this. ?The intention is to include EOC folks in the QSO party as it is beneficial to both groups. ?The intention of the rule is that I can?t just designate my station or some location to be an EOC site and enter the EOC category. ?If someone uses an established EOC site (hopefully with permission) or a site that the proper authorities deem to be an EOC site and coordinate with them, then it seems it would be OK.
<K8MP> Who makes the final decision?The decision would be made by the OhQP committee.
73, Tim K9TM
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From web at ohqp.org  Sun Jul  2 19:31:20 2017
From: web at ohqp.org (web at ohqp.org)
Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2017 19:31:20 -0500
Subject: [OhQP-mail] K8MP, W8KTQ has submitted OhQP Plans
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The plan is to activate the following counties:
VINT


See all the planned county activity at http://ohqpwp.ohqp.org


From web at ohqp.org  Mon Jul  3 07:16:08 2017
From: web at ohqp.org (web at ohqp.org)
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2017 07:16:08 -0500
Subject: [OhQP-mail] K9TM has submitted OhQP Plans
Message-ID: <E1dS0Gu-002SrI-RU@www11.qth.com>

The plan is to activate the following counties:
LUCA


See all the planned county activity at http://www.ohqp.org/index.php/view-plans/


From web at ohqp.org  Mon Jul  3 09:21:33 2017
From: web at ohqp.org (web at ohqp.org)
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2017 09:21:33 -0500
Subject: [OhQP-mail] AJ8B has submitted OhQP Plans
Message-ID: <E1dS2EH-0031am-IH@www11.qth.com>

The plan is to activate the following counties:
WARR


See all the planned county activity at http://www.ohqp.org/index.php/view-plans/


From web at ohqp.org  Mon Jul  3 10:30:03 2017
From: web at ohqp.org (web at ohqp.org)
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2017 10:30:03 -0500
Subject: [OhQP-mail] N8JK has submitted OhQP Plans
Message-ID: <E1dS3IZ-003KfD-HK@www11.qth.com>

The plan is to activate the following counties:
HENR


See all the planned county activity at http://www.ohqp.org/index.php/view-plans/


From web at ohqp.org  Mon Jul  3 12:44:04 2017
From: web at ohqp.org (web at ohqp.org)
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2017 12:44:04 -0500
Subject: [OhQP-mail] WU8R has submitted OhQP Plans
Message-ID: <E1dS5OG-003tkm-90@www11.qth.com>

The plan is to activate the following counties:
JACK


See all the planned county activity at http://www.ohqp.org/index.php/view-plans/


From web at ohqp.org  Mon Jul  3 19:18:00 2017
From: web at ohqp.org (web at ohqp.org)
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2017 19:18:00 -0500
Subject: [OhQP-mail] AA8TA has submitted OhQP Plans
Message-ID: <E1dSBXU-000qr3-6z@www11.qth.com>

The plan is to activate the following counties:
COSH


See all the planned county activity at http://www.ohqp.org/index.php/view-plans/


From web at ohqp.org  Mon Jul  3 19:34:39 2017
From: web at ohqp.org (web at ohqp.org)
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2017 19:34:39 -0500
Subject: [OhQP-mail] KD8MQ  has submitted OhQP Plans
Message-ID: <E1dSBnb-000u5S-La@www11.qth.com>

The plan is to activate the following counties:
STAR


See all the planned county activity at http://www.ohqp.org/index.php/view-plans/


From web at ohqp.org  Sat Jul  8 10:41:21 2017
From: web at ohqp.org (web at ohqp.org)
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2017 10:41:21 -0500
Subject: [OhQP-mail] K1LT has submitted OhQP Plans
Message-ID: <E1dTrrF-001aBC-Lb@www11.qth.com>

The plan is to activate the following counties:
FAIR


See all the planned county activity at http://www.ohqp.org/index.php/view-plans/


From web at ohqp.org  Sat Jul  8 11:42:04 2017
From: web at ohqp.org (web at ohqp.org)
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2017 11:42:04 -0500
Subject: [OhQP-mail] WX8G has submitted OhQP Plans
Message-ID: <E1dTso0-001mT8-An@www11.qth.com>

The plan is to activate the following counties:
SCIO


See all the planned county activity at http://www.ohqp.org/index.php/view-plans/


From web at ohqp.org  Sat Jul  8 11:47:34 2017
From: web at ohqp.org (web at ohqp.org)
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2017 11:47:34 -0500
Subject: [OhQP-mail] K4YJ has submitted OhQP Plans
Message-ID: <E1dTstK-001nXy-OV@www11.qth.com>

The plan is to activate the following counties:
PIKE


See all the planned county activity at http://www.ohqp.org/index.php/view-plans/


From web at ohqp.org  Sat Jul  8 17:55:55 2017
From: web at ohqp.org (web at ohqp.org)
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2017 17:55:55 -0500
Subject: [OhQP-mail] K8BLP has submitted OhQP Plans
Message-ID: <E1dTydn-002wK7-Rm@www11.qth.com>

The plan is to activate the following counties:
COLU


See all the planned county activity at http://www.ohqp.org/index.php/view-plans/


From web at ohqp.org  Sat Jul  8 20:33:59 2017
From: web at ohqp.org (web at ohqp.org)
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2017 20:33:59 -0500
Subject: [OhQP-mail] WZ8P has submitted OhQP Plans
Message-ID: <E1dU16l-003NCJ-1B@www11.qth.com>

The plan is to activate the following counties:
MUSK


See all the planned county activity at http://www.ohqp.org/index.php/view-plans/


From web at ohqp.org  Sun Jul  9 15:55:25 2017
From: web at ohqp.org (web at ohqp.org)
Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2017 15:55:25 -0500
Subject: [OhQP-mail] NS8O has submitted OhQP Plans
Message-ID: <E1dUJEj-0031PS-Gt@www11.qth.com>

The plan is to activate the following counties:
MEIG


See all the planned county activity at http://www.ohqp.org/index.php/view-plans/


From swmorton50 at gmail.com  Sun Jul  9 22:59:01 2017
From: swmorton50 at gmail.com (swmorton50 at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2017 21:59:01 -0600
Subject: [OhQP-mail] Planned activities
Message-ID: <5962fb85.8ca01f0a.edec0.06f3@mx.google.com>

I?ve been watching the planned county operations and am glad to see quite a few operations have already been posted.  I?ve been studying propagation charts, antennas and power levels to optimize my efforts from TI8/AA8HH this year.

80 meters from here just doesn?t work very well until after the contest is over.  Higher power and a better antenna doesn?t make much of a difference.  However, a 40 meter dipole, up high, should outperform my vertical.  And more power would also help a bunch on 40 meters as well as 20 meters.

Our house sits on top of the first mountain back from the Pacific and we are surrounded by rain forest below us.  We have plenty of property and tall trees, but the problem is that they are mostly below the level of the house.  From our house, the property drops off VERY steeply into the rain forest.  Getting a 40 meter dipole into the trees high enough to work well is quite a challenge.  But? I may have a solution.  A neighbor of ours bought a drone and is looking for a project.  It occurred to me that the drone might be able to haul up a fish line into the tops of the trees that I can use to pull up a rope and antenna.

So, we are going to try to get that 40 meter dipole hung this year.

I?m still waiting on my amplifier (stuck in Customs Hell for 17 months now).  There seems to be some movement and with a lot of luck I may have it released in the next few weeks.  Keeping my fingers and toes crossed.  500 watts would make a real difference.  Hoping to keep everything up and running for 12 hours (especially the electricity) during the contest.  It?s winter here (rainy season) and heavy rains/lightning/static crashes are a big issue, so we?re hoping for good weather here as well as in Ohio!

I do have one question for the group.  What spotting network is best to monitor.  Last year DX Watch and County Hunter Spots didn?t have all that many Ohio stations spots.  In fact, I don?t think I worked a single station from a spot.

I?m definitely looking forward to 2017 OHQP

Steve ? TI8/AA8HH



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From aa8ta at fischerhome.org  Mon Jul 10 21:20:44 2017
From: aa8ta at fischerhome.org (Joe Fischer)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 22:20:44 -0400
Subject: [OhQP-mail] Planned activities
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Hey Steve.

Good luck with the antenna.  Would love to read about you putting it up, how it works and see some pics.  Remember - no pictures, it didn't happen.

Hard to believe your amp is still in custody; hope it gets a pardon soon.

For QSO Parties, I sometimes see ops spotted on the clusters.  Usually, I'll watch the RBN around 40 kHz up from the bottom of the band, or go old-school and just tune around.  Hopefully, there will be plenty of Ohio ops keeping the ions up above busy.  Don't get too infatuated with those guys from KS or HI, though.

Finally, I just have to ask: is that slash call sign going to go away sometime?

GL es 73 de Joe AA8TA

> On Jul 9, 2017, at 23:59, <swmorton50 at gmail.com> <swmorton50 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I?ve been watching the planned county operations and am glad to see quite a few operations have already been posted.  I?ve been studying propagation charts, antennas and power levels to optimize my efforts from TI8/AA8HH this year.
>  
> 80 meters from here just doesn?t work very well until after the contest is over.  Higher power and a better antenna doesn?t make much of a difference.  However, a 40 meter dipole, up high, should outperform my vertical.  And more power would also help a bunch on 40 meters as well as 20 meters.
>  
> Our house sits on top of the first mountain back from the Pacific and we are surrounded by rain forest below us.  We have plenty of property and tall trees, but the problem is that they are mostly below the level of the house.  From our house, the property drops off VERY steeply into the rain forest.  Getting a 40 meter dipole into the trees high enough to work well is quite a challenge.  But? I may have a solution.  A neighbor of ours bought a drone and is looking for a project.  It occurred to me that the drone might be able to haul up a fish line into the tops of the trees that I can use to pull up a rope and antenna.
>  
> So, we are going to try to get that 40 meter dipole hung this year.
>  
> I?m still waiting on my amplifier (stuck in Customs Hell for 17 months now).  There seems to be some movement and with a lot of luck I may have it released in the next few weeks.  Keeping my fingers and toes crossed.  500 watts would make a real difference.  Hoping to keep everything up and running for 12 hours (especially the electricity) during the contest.  It?s winter here (rainy season) and heavy rains/lightning/static crashes are a big issue, so we?re hoping for good weather here as well as in Ohio!
>  
> I do have one question for the group.  What spotting network is best to monitor.  Last year DX Watch and County Hunter Spots didn?t have all that many Ohio stations spots.  In fact, I don?t think I worked a single station from a spot.
>  
> I?m definitely looking forward to 2017 OHQP
>  
> Steve ? TI8/AA8HH
>  
>  
>  
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From web at ohqp.org  Tue Jul 11 12:52:47 2017
From: web at ohqp.org (web at ohqp.org)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 12:52:47 -0500
Subject: [OhQP-mail] NE9KM has submitted OhQP Plans
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The plan is to activate the following counties:
FULT


See all the planned county activity at http://www.ohqp.org/index.php/view-plans/


From swmorton50 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 11 20:48:02 2017
From: swmorton50 at gmail.com (swmorton50 at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 19:48:02 -0600
Subject: [OhQP-mail] OhQP-mail Digest, Vol 57, Issue 10
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Hi Joe et al,

Your words remind me of what my daughter says all the time? No pix Dad, it did not happen.  She especially gets stinky when I tell her we saw some cool animal near the house like an anteater, capuchin monkey, jaguarundi, boa, wild peccary, sloth, etc.  Will definitely try to get some pix out to the group of the dipole install.  I may even get some drone video.  Also, I plan to post a couple of operating pix from the contest if I can get the boss up to the shack with her cell phone camera.  

I?m going into town tomorrow to buy wire and rope ? already have some coax.  One of the two trees that I have selected is probably 75 feet tall and very skinny with no branches until the very top.  It sways several feet during windy conditions, so I need to figure out some good strain reliefs.  I plan on letting the dipole droop quite a bit also.  A local buddy suggested that I use wire that is strong enough to guy the tree? 

This year I tried running the Indiana, 7QP and New England parties at the same time.  It was fun and fairly productive, but at times got a little confusing.  I?m not sure how much each individual contest score suffered, but I?m sure that I missed quite a few opportunities.

I plan on concentrating on Ohio QSO Party just like last year, but Hawaii QSO Party is kind of tempting.  From here, Hawaii is about a 4900 mile haul, but 99 plus percent over water.  There is absolutely nothing in the way.  Hawaii is usually quite loud here.  If I do play in the Hawaii contest, it will most likely be on Friday night and during the day on Sunday.  Their qso party last 48 hours.  Not sure how long the xyl will put up with my radio racket and my absence.

No plans to operate KS qso party.  Those guys used to drive me crazy when I operated from Ohio especially on 40 meters.  I still hold a grudge hi hi.

We are not likely to see the TI8/ disappear any time soon.  Regulations are very strict and require an exam.  You must have permanent residency (3 plus years and a lot of effort, cost and paperwork) just to take the Novice test.  Wait a year for the general test and wait another year for the Extra class.  The government has not issued any new TI callsigns in years.  In fact, they have not even had a test session for several years.  Additionally, each upgrade requires proof of operations in the form of written logbook AND a certain amount of paper qsl cards.

Nothing new on the amp.  I was supposed to hear something today but that did not happen.  If and when I get the amp, there is a good chance it will not work.  I understand that it has been out of the box seven times so far for inspection.

Stay tuned.

Steve ? TI8/AA8HH

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From: Joe Fischer <aa8ta at fischerhome.org>
To: "ohqp-mail at ohqp.org" <ohqp-mail at ohqp.org>
Subject: Re: [OhQP-mail] Planned activities
Message-ID: <5032E05A-6245-40DA-AA94-3F65B4EF9BE9 at fischerhome.org>
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Hey Steve.

Good luck with the antenna.  Would love to read about you putting it up, how it works and see some pics.  Remember - no pictures, it didn't happen.

Hard to believe your amp is still in custody; hope it gets a pardon soon.

For QSO Parties, I sometimes see ops spotted on the clusters.  Usually, I'll watch the RBN around 40 kHz up from the bottom of the band, or go old-school and just tune around.  Hopefully, there will be plenty of Ohio ops keeping the ions up above busy.  Don't get too infatuated with those guys from KS or HI, though.

Finally, I just have to ask: is that slash call sign going to go away sometime?

GL es 73 de Joe AA8TA

> On Jul 9, 2017, at 23:59, <swmorton50 at gmail.com> <swmorton50 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I?ve been watching the planned county operations and am glad to see quite a few operations have already been posted.  I?ve been studying propagation charts, antennas and power levels to optimize my efforts from TI8/AA8HH this year.
>  
> 80 meters from here just doesn?t work very well until after the contest is over.  Higher power and a better antenna doesn?t make much of a difference.  However, a 40 meter dipole, up high, should outperform my vertical.  And more power would also help a bunch on 40 meters as well as 20 meters.
>  
> Our house sits on top of the first mountain back from the Pacific and we are surrounded by rain forest below us.  We have plenty of property and tall trees, but the problem is that they are mostly below the level of the house.  From our house, the property drops off VERY steeply into the rain forest.  Getting a 40 meter dipole into the trees high enough to work well is quite a challenge.  But? I may have a solution.  A neighbor of ours bought a drone and is looking for a project.  It occurred to me that the drone might be able to haul up a fish line into the tops of the trees that I can use to pull up a rope and antenna.
>  
> So, we are going to try to get that 40 meter dipole hung this year.
>  
> I?m still waiting on my amplifier (stuck in Customs Hell for 17 months now).  There seems to be some movement and with a lot of luck I may have it released in the next few weeks.  Keeping my fingers and toes crossed.  500 watts would make a real difference.  Hoping to keep everything up and running for 12 hours (especially the electricity) during the contest.  It?s winter here (rainy season) and heavy rains/lightning/static crashes are a big issue, so we?re hoping for good weather here as well as in Ohio!
>  
> I do have one question for the group.  What spotting network is best to monitor.  Last year DX Watch and County Hunter Spots didn?t have all that many Ohio stations spots.  In fact, I don?t think I worked a single station from a spot.
>  
> I?m definitely looking forward to 2017 OHQP
>  
> Steve ? TI8/AA8HH
>  
>  
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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From web at ohqp.org  Fri Jul 14 12:46:08 2017
From: web at ohqp.org (web at ohqp.org)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 12:46:08 -0500
Subject: [OhQP-mail] AE8I has submitted OhQP Plans
Message-ID: <E1dW4fI-004Lzn-KX@www11.qth.com>

The plan is to activate the following counties:
MIAM


See all the planned county activity at http://www.ohqp.org/index.php/view-plans/


From web at ohqp.org  Sat Jul 15 23:16:17 2017
From: web at ohqp.org (web at ohqp.org)
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2017 23:16:17 -0500
Subject: [OhQP-mail] K8MP, W8KTQ has submitted OhQP Plans
Message-ID: <E1dWayf-0041Qu-Ko@www11.qth.com>

The plan is to activate the following counties:No county given.  Normally means prior planned operation has been deleted.


See all the planned county activity at http://www.ohqp.org/index.php/view-plans/


From web at ohqp.org  Sat Jul 15 23:18:18 2017
From: web at ohqp.org (web at ohqp.org)
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2017 23:18:18 -0500
Subject: [OhQP-mail] K8V has submitted OhQP Plans
Message-ID: <E1dWb0c-0041ix-6n@www11.qth.com>

The plan is to activate the following counties:
VINT


See all the planned county activity at http://www.ohqp.org/index.php/view-plans/


From web at ohqp.org  Sun Jul 16 11:46:03 2017
From: web at ohqp.org (web at ohqp.org)
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 11:46:03 -0500
Subject: [OhQP-mail] K8YR has submitted OhQP Plans
Message-ID: <E1dWmgF-001pKz-N0@www11.qth.com>

The plan is to activate the following counties:
PREB


See all the planned county activity at http://www.ohqp.org/index.php/view-plans/


From w8rf at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 16 18:50:36 2017
From: w8rf at yahoo.com (Mike Mettler W8RF)
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 23:50:36 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [OhQP-mail] OHqP
References: <563916258.1577977.1500249036006.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <563916258.1577977.1500249036006@mail.yahoo.com>

In search of a station to operate.

    Mike W8RF


From web at ohqp.org  Sun Jul 16 21:08:23 2017
From: web at ohqp.org (web at ohqp.org)
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 21:08:23 -0500
Subject: [OhQP-mail] KD8MQ has submitted OhQP Plans
Message-ID: <E1dWvSR-004ENc-PB@www11.qth.com>

The plan is to activate the following counties:
ASHT


See all the planned county activity at http://www.ohqp.org/index.php/view-plans/


From web at ohqp.org  Mon Jul 17 10:52:57 2017
From: web at ohqp.org (web at ohqp.org)
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 10:52:57 -0500
Subject: [OhQP-mail] N8YN has submitted OhQP Plans
Message-ID: <E1dX8KP-002iKi-NU@www11.qth.com>

The plan is to activate the following counties:No county given.  Normally means prior planned operation has been deleted.


See all the planned county activity at http://www.ohqp.org/index.php/view-plans/


From jimk8mr at aol.com  Mon Jul 17 19:32:02 2017
From: jimk8mr at aol.com (jimk8mr at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 20:32:02 -0400
Subject: [OhQP-mail] OhQP Plaque Sponsorships
Message-ID: <15d531be2b4-6cd1-cfaa@webprd-m57.mail.aol.com>

I am pleased to announce that Mike Zilavy, WA3C, has agreed to sponsor the Ohio Single Operator, High Power plaque for the 2017 Ohio QSO Party. Mike is no OhQP stranger - he has been operating Multioperator from his Jefferson County QTH, winning the category last year. Thanks, Mike!

We still have an opening for sponsorship of the Ohio Mobile plaque. If you or your club is interested, please let me know. Cost is $60.00.

I hope you are all well along on your plans for a very active 2017 OhQP on August 26. See you on the air then!



73  -  Jim   K8MR
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From vkean at k1lt.com  Mon Jul 17 21:17:47 2017
From: vkean at k1lt.com (Victor A. Kean, Jr.)
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 22:17:47 -0400
Subject: [OhQP-mail] Ohio QSO Party History
Message-ID: <2686956.BV7d9lWZ2L@desk>

Anybody know any history of the Ohio QSO Party before Mad River took over 
organization?

I am to present a talk about the OhQP and I would like to say a few things 
about how this contest came to be.

Victor, K1LT



From paulhurm at gmail.com  Mon Jul 17 21:49:04 2017
From: paulhurm at gmail.com (Paul Hurm)
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 22:49:04 -0400
Subject: [OhQP-mail] Ohio QSO Party History
In-Reply-To: <2686956.BV7d9lWZ2L@desk>
References: <2686956.BV7d9lWZ2L@desk>
Message-ID: <CAC6OfRHXMEYE97_JoWHOyge7PGsOSHCtdT6TJzMaB14-Q8dSew@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Vic,

What is your drop dead date for info?

I won't have much to share but I still should have a certificate from when
I went portable VE3 in 1973 that may possibly have sponsor club or people
names listed.

You may remember WA8ZTV from our W8LT days. I can remember a QSO with him
because he recognized my "bug" fist without me sending my call. (I sent
"cty ?" to find out where he was.)

I also seem to remember that the contest then ran for a stretched out time
rather than just a weekend. I will try to find my logs to get a feel for
that as well.

This will all likely take a few days to dig that deeply into my files.

Paul, N8OT
ex WB8CLF (ca '73)




On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 10:17 PM, Victor A. Kean, Jr. <vkean at k1lt.com>
wrote:

> Anybody know any history of the Ohio QSO Party before Mad River took over
> organization?
>
> I am to present a talk about the OhQP and I would like to say a few things
> about how this contest came to be.
>
> Victor, K1LT
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> OhQP-mail at ohqp.org
> http://mail.ohqp.org/mailman/listinfo/ohqp-mail_ohqp.org
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From hal at japancorporateresearch.com  Tue Jul 18 08:56:26 2017
From: hal at japancorporateresearch.com (Hal Offutt)
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2017 09:56:26 -0400
Subject: [OhQP-mail] [MRRC] Ohio QSO Party History
In-Reply-To: <2686956.BV7d9lWZ2L@desk>
References: <2686956.BV7d9lWZ2L@desk>
Message-ID: <1acd5be2-ecf1-030c-204e-438d8631c5fb@japancorporateresearch.com>

Hi Vic,

The Ohio Intrastate QSO Party was flourishing in the late 50's and early 
60's.   According to information in the Station Activities column in the 
April, 1958 issue QST, the sixth annual Ohio Intrastate QSO Party was 
scheduled for April 12-13, 1958.  So the first one must have been held 
in 1953.  It was sponsored by the Ohio Council of Amateur Radio Clubs 
and it ran for 24 hours from 6 PM EST Saturday.  It was only open to 
Ohio stations.  The rules state: "In one county, ten contacts only, 
phone or C.W., may be counted."  You could only work a station only 
once, regardless of band or mode.  Pretty strange rules by today's 
standards.

I participated a couple of times in the late 50's and early 60's and it 
had quite a bit of activity, including mobiles.

I have no information about subsequent changes, but if you have access 
to back issues of QST, you can probably trace the history pretty easily.

73, Hal W1NN


On 7/17/2017 10:17 PM, Victor A. Kean, Jr. wrote:
> Anybody know any history of the Ohio QSO Party before Mad River took over
> organization?
>
> I am to present a talk about the OhQP and I would like to say a few things
> about how this contest came to be.
>
> Victor, K1LT
>
> _______________________________________________
> MRRC mailing list
> MRRC at contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/mrrc
>



From jimk8mr at aol.com  Wed Jul 19 11:56:54 2017
From: jimk8mr at aol.com (Jim Stahl)
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 12:56:54 -0400
Subject: [OhQP-mail] OhQP Mobile Plaque Sponsor
Message-ID: <D4DD4E8A-7151-4119-888E-F51BEAA4904D@aol.com>

I?m pleased to announce that Jim Snell, W8DRZ, has offered to sponsor the OhQP Mobile Plaque.

Jim has spent more time on the Ohio roads in OhQP than nearly anyone else. For years he was my main driver in OhQP, as well as MI and PA, plus an occasional trip in WV or IN. So he does know a lot of roads in the hinterlands of Ohio!

Jim has retired from driving, but hopefully will still show up from Erie county next month.


73  -  Jim   K8MR



From w8car at bex.net  Wed Jul 19 12:37:28 2017
From: w8car at bex.net (Dan)
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 13:37:28 -0400
Subject: [OhQP-mail] OHQP coming August
Message-ID: <904C9D890273448A83994CD67D830470@TurdFerguson>

Don?t forget to mark your calendar for August 26, Saturday, from 1200 EDT to 2400 EDT (1600Z to 0400Z Sunday) for the OHQP
Make sure to go to WWW.OHQP.ORG for rules, results and planned operations. Remember, no more serial numbers just RST and county (or state/province)

Put YOUR hat in the ring and activate a county or two or 20 either as a home station, rover or mobile. Make sure to put your op in the planned operation section so stations who are looking for counties can see
what?s up!

So far we have about 20 counties signed up but we need MORE MORE MORE!. If you will be mobile put your route in so we can get coverage of all 88 counties. If you  know anyone who might be interested give them a call, email, snail mail, tweet, snapchat, Facebook post or radiogram!

First of several haranguing's for the good of the cause!

Dan W8CAR OHQP whip
cwops 1220
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From web at ohqp.org  Thu Jul 20 08:21:59 2017
From: web at ohqp.org (web at ohqp.org)
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2017 08:21:59 -0500
Subject: [OhQP-mail] KD8MC has submitted OhQP Plans
Message-ID: <E1dYBOx-002yvT-IY@www11.qth.com>

The plan is to activate the following counties:
MORG


See all the planned county activity at http://www.ohqp.org/index.php/view-plans/


From web at ohqp.org  Fri Jul 28 06:24:08 2017
From: web at ohqp.org (web at ohqp.org)
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2017 06:24:08 -0500
Subject: [OhQP-mail] W8OH has submitted OhQP Plans
Message-ID: <E1db3NI-001NxX-4x@www11.qth.com>

The plan is to activate the following counties:
HIGH


See all the planned county activity at http://www.ohqp.org/index.php/view-plans/


From web at ohqp.org  Fri Jul 28 19:33:34 2017
From: web at ohqp.org (web at ohqp.org)
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2017 19:33:34 -0500
Subject: [OhQP-mail] N8SDR has submitted OhQP Plans
Message-ID: <E1dbFhG-000VUU-6W@www11.qth.com>

The plan is to activate the following counties:
BUTL


See all the planned county activity at http://www.ohqp.org/index.php/view-plans/


From web at ohqp.org  Sat Jul 29 07:41:02 2017
From: web at ohqp.org (web at ohqp.org)
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2017 07:41:02 -0500
Subject: [OhQP-mail] K8BTU has submitted OhQP Plans
Message-ID: <E1dbR3G-003CQJ-Cy@www11.qth.com>

The plan is to activate the following counties:
DELA


See all the planned county activity at http://www.ohqp.org/index.php/view-plans/


From web at ohqp.org  Sat Jul 29 16:32:46 2017
From: web at ohqp.org (web at ohqp.org)
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2017 16:32:46 -0500
Subject: [OhQP-mail] KD8RWR has submitted OhQP Plans
Message-ID: <E1dbZLq-000alM-Uq@www11.qth.com>

The plan is to activate the following counties:
BUTL


See all the planned county activity at http://www.ohqp.org/index.php/view-plans/


From web at ohqp.org  Sun Jul 30 12:54:58 2017
From: web at ohqp.org (web at ohqp.org)
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2017 12:54:58 -0500
Subject: [OhQP-mail] K8O/M has submitted OhQP Plans
Message-ID: <E1dbsQc-000NNA-N4@www11.qth.com>

The plan is to activate the following counties:No county given.  Normally means prior planned operation has been deleted.


See all the planned county activity at http://www.ohqp.org/index.php/view-plans/


From web at ohqp.org  Sun Jul 30 12:57:51 2017
From: web at ohqp.org (web at ohqp.org)
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2017 12:57:51 -0500
Subject: [OhQP-mail] K8O/M has submitted OhQP Plans
Message-ID: <E1dbsTP-000NsI-Vw@www11.qth.com>

The plan is to activate the following counties:
ALLE
ASHL
AUGL


See all the planned county activity at http://www.ohqp.org/index.php/view-plans/


From web at ohqp.org  Sun Jul 30 13:01:13 2017
From: web at ohqp.org (web at ohqp.org)
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2017 13:01:13 -0500
Subject: [OhQP-mail] K8O/M has submitted OhQP Plans
Message-ID: <E1dbsWf-000Oao-2H@www11.qth.com>

The plan is to activate the following counties:
ALLE
ASHL
AUGL
CRAW
DEFI
DELA
ERIE
FULT
HANC
HARD
HENR
HURO
KNOX
LICK
LUCA
MARI
MERC
MORR
OTTA
PAUL
PUTN
RICH
SAND
SENE
UNIO
VANW
WILL
WOOD
WYAN


See all the planned county activity at http://www.ohqp.org/index.php/view-plans/


From web at ohqp.org  Sun Jul 30 13:38:19 2017
From: web at ohqp.org (web at ohqp.org)
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2017 13:38:19 -0500
Subject: [OhQP-mail] KE8G has submitted OhQP Plans
Message-ID: <E1dbt6Z-000Vii-DX@www11.qth.com>

The plan is to activate the following counties:
CUYA


See all the planned county activity at http://www.ohqp.org/index.php/view-plans/


From web at ohqp.org  Mon Jul 31 14:03:13 2017
From: web at ohqp.org (web at ohqp.org)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 14:03:13 -0500
Subject: [OhQP-mail] K8RYU/R has submitted OhQP Plans
Message-ID: <E1dcFyD-00241F-LI@www11.qth.com>

The plan is to activate the following counties:
ATHE
GALL
JACK
LAWR
MEIG
PIKE
SCIO
VINT
WASH


See all the planned county activity at http://www.ohqp.org/index.php/view-plans/


From mathenyr at marietta.edu  Mon Jul 31 14:11:18 2017
From: mathenyr at marietta.edu (Ralph Matheny)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 19:11:18 +0000
Subject: [OhQP-mail] K8RYU/R
Message-ID: <DM5PR03MB33853ED412A98C4C0C944402A3B20@DM5PR03MB3385.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>



Well the plans are made for another trip thru SE Ohio.  It is my

hope that it goes better than it did last year.


We will start in SCIO, move to PIKE, over to GALL, then LAWR,

JACK, VINT, MEIG, ATHE, and then WASH as time permits.  Will

possibly make some variation in the order, but to get SCIO, LAWR

and GALL best be on early in the party.


As usual, heavy on CW as we drive between setups, but SSB also

in use.  Will check 75/80 at every site and will try to get as many

daylite Q's there as possible.


de K8RYU


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From web at ohqp.org  Mon Jul 31 15:03:18 2017
From: web at ohqp.org (web at ohqp.org)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 15:03:18 -0500
Subject: [OhQP-mail] KE8ANS has submitted OhQP Plans
Message-ID: <E1dcGuM-002LAv-5B@www11.qth.com>

The plan is to activate the following counties:
KNOX


See all the planned county activity at http://www.ohqp.org/index.php/view-plans/


From web at ohqp.org  Mon Jul 31 15:56:06 2017
From: web at ohqp.org (web at ohqp.org)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 15:56:06 -0500
Subject: [OhQP-mail] AA8TA has submitted OhQP Plans
Message-ID: <E1dcHjS-002ZPS-WF@www11.qth.com>

The plan is to activate the following counties:No county given.  Normally means prior planned operation has been deleted.


See all the planned county activity at http://www.ohqp.org/index.php/view-plans/


From web at ohqp.org  Mon Jul 31 15:56:36 2017
From: web at ohqp.org (web at ohqp.org)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 15:56:36 -0500
Subject: [OhQP-mail] AA8TA has submitted OhQP Plans
Message-ID: <E1dcHjw-002ZXl-KX@www11.qth.com>

The plan is to activate the following counties:
FRAN


See all the planned county activity at http://www.ohqp.org/index.php/view-plans/


From web at ohqp.org  Mon Jul 31 19:10:31 2017
From: web at ohqp.org (web at ohqp.org)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 19:10:31 -0500
Subject: [OhQP-mail] W8WRK has submitted OhQP Plans
Message-ID: <E1dcKlb-003HIq-2X@www11.qth.com>

The plan is to activate the following counties:
BUTL


See all the planned county activity at http://www.ohqp.org/index.php/view-plans/


From web at ohqp.org  Mon Jul 31 23:03:54 2017
From: web at ohqp.org (web at ohqp.org)
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 23:03:54 -0500
Subject: [OhQP-mail] N8BV has submitted OhQP Plans
Message-ID: <E1dcOPS-000IbE-SM@www11.qth.com>

The plan is to activate the following counties:
HAMI


See all the planned county activity at http://www.ohqp.org/index.php/view-plans/