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Great post Dave and spot on as well. I don't usually reply to his
posts as I don't believe in feeding trolls.<br>
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On 4/12/2014 5:08 PM, David Bunte wrote:
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">Hank et al
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">At first I
was not going to weigh in on this one... as I don't expect to
participate in the OHQP this year... but I have done so in the
past, and I am having a hard time seeing how the scoring
changes Hank suggests would improve the event. As K9NW
pointed out, there already is a QRP category. <br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">As others
have posted, sometimes it can be a lot of extra work to copy a
QRP station. I have worked Hank a number of times when he was
running QRP... sometimes conditions are such that copy is very
good... but there are times when if I hear a VERY weak 'XX', I
take a chance that it is hank, and come back to N8XX. It
usually was Hank, but I think one time I did that, it turned
out to be someone else with 'XX' in their call.<br>
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However, it can also be pretty hard to work the station with
horrible audio, or a lousy fist. We certainly can't give
those folks a multiplier just because they are making it
harder for the rest of us to work them.<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">Hank,
probably what I found hardest to understand about your
original post, however, was the basis for the apparent low
regard with which you hold those hams in Ohio who run the
OHQP. I know you used to live in Ohio, but don't see how that
makes it any clearer why you make a statement such as: "But
I'm a stupid enough LID to not understand this axiom of common
knowledge of the "Gurus on high" to whom we all bow in
obsequious sycophancy, never daring to question their
omnipotent and supreme knowledge and wisdom." That plus your
comment about it perhaps taking until 2050 for change to
happen, makes me think that you have a history with the folks
in Ohio... that I don't need to or care to know about. But it
also makes it look like your post was designed to "roil the
waters", not to improve the OHQP. If the latter is your goal,
I would suggest that you drop the jabs at others, and include
some good reasons for the scoring changes you suggest.
Reasons that will show how such changes will make the event
better.<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">The notion
of a scoring multiplier for those who contact a QRP station,
could have the effect of improving scores of the QRP stations,
by giving them more contacts, and it would give an incentive
to the other stations to risk a drop in rate, to pull out the
weaker station. <br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: large;">However, I
am not convinced that the OHQP would be a better event because
of such a scoring change. "If it ain't broke... " etc. If it
is "broke", then show us what is "broke", and offer a
suggestion that would fix it, but please do so without taking
shots at your fellow ham.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Hank
Greeb <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Mr. Chasey:<br>
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Caution: It is very dangerous to one's reputation to agree
with the nut @ N8XX, lest one be branded, by association
with, a LID.<br>
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However, to carry your idea a bit farther, we could adopt a
variation of the scoring system used by the Stew Perry Top
Band Challenge. We couple increase the incentive for
operating with low power by adding another a multiplier for
working as a QRP station. Thus, in addition to the
multiplier for running one's station at <5 watts output,
one would get a multiplier of 1 for working a station
running >150 watts, a multiplier of 2 for working a
station running >5 watts but <150 watts, and a
multiplier of 5 for working a station running <5 watts
power output.<br>
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A QRP station working a QRP station would get a final power
multiplier of 25, a High Power station working another High
power station would get a final power multiplier of 1 for
that one contact.<br>
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Distance multipliers as used in the Stew Perry "probably"
wouldn't be useful, since the objective is to work as many
states and counties as possible.<br>
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The Stew Perry power multipliers are 1, 2, and 4, so perhaps
the choice above of 1, 2 and 5 might need adjusting.<br>
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It would complicate the job of the scoring team just a bit,
because they'd have to put in a factor for each "receiving
multiplier" for each entry, but if the Stew Perry can do it,
it's only a matter of programming one's silly computer,
which would religiously follow the algorithm contained
therein.<br>
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Note, I only throw the idea out at this time, in hopes that
it would receive something other than a "knee jerk, 'we've
never done this before so it must be a screwball idea'" as
most new ideas for the OHQP have been treated in past years.<br>
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I doubt that this will ever receive a fair hearing, because
it comes from an outside source (that far away location of
New Mexico), and anything foreign is worthless in the sacred
halls of the "Gurus on high" to whom we all bow in
obsequious sycophancy, never daring to question their
omnipotent and supreme knowledge and wisdom.
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72/73 de n8xx Hg<br>
QRP >99.44% of the time<br>
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On 4/12/2014 10:43 AM, Chasey, David A wrote:<br>
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Hank might actually be on to something here,<br>
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