[OhQP-mail] Multi-operator logging options N3FJP new networking software

Hank Greeb n8xx at arrl.org
Wed Jun 19 08:42:35 CDT 2013

Did you read the caveat about "backing up thy data, OM? back up thy 
data?"  Backing up the *.MDB database in which these data are stored is 
an operation which takes only a few seconds. One can cut and paste two 
cabrillo files together manually, if needed.

Note:  @ W8M/W8DC we used N1MM Field day last year.  Except for some 
panic calls to the network administrator and computer guru when an op 
didn't sit in front of the tutorial computer prior to taking over an 
operating position, it hummed along like a sleeping lion or tiger. 
There's a nice tutorial on the web, which may be downlaoded from the 
Frankfort ARC (I think that's the group). It's less than 10 minutes, but 
good info for an op who has never used computer logging or hasn't used 
N1MM.  There's another tutorial about an hour long on how to set up the 
network, which seemed a few levels over my head in understanding. A 
non-contest op who is our technical guru and network person reads the 
same info in the N1MM documents, and actually understand the gibberish 
contained therein. :) There are many caveats in the N1MM docs aboutwhat 
NOT to do when using N1MM network or data will be lost - most of which I 
don't bother to understand.

The first time we used N3FJP networked for Field Day, we noted itwas 
trying to "eat" our data at one point.  We disconnected the network, 
backed up allthe data, and then it performed flawlessly.  Another group 
didn't notice the situation, and lost about half their contacts.

Remember, you get what you pay for.  I'll bet the N1MM team offered 
double in compensation for what you paid them to use their software, 
maybe even triple.

N1MM wouldn't be popular if it continued to have major problems after a 
problem was reported.

(Note, I paid triple for the copies I use, and have only cursed my 
computer 1000 times or so when I couldn't speak the same language as 
N1MM expected from the dunce operator @ N8XX)

72/73 de n8xx Hg
QRP >99.44% of the time

On 6/19/2013 8:42 AM, w3hkk at roadrunner.com wrote:
> COOKEN tried it for the VHF Contest, after many years of   doing what you have done.  Fortunately
> we only got it working for the 2M and 70 cm stations. The 6M station remained  on the old N3FJP software.  On Day 2 when the  ops started up on the 2/70cm stations, the software backed up and wiped clean  37  Day 1 QSOs, never to be found again. ie we started Day 2 with a blank log!   Luckily, my 6M station continued unaffected, but we lost many  points and mults on those other two bands.  With the horrible 6M conditions, 2M was surprisingly  valuable and productive.
> The  guys report that there have been many comments about issues with the new software still to be ironed out.
> ---- Robert AC8GE <ac8ge at arrl.net> wrote:
>> That's my point in asking. I figure there will be a learning curve so I am
>> looking at other recommendations to see what I need to start playing with
>> now.
>> Thanks Hank,
>> Robert AC8GE
>> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 11:31 PM, Hank Greeb <n8xx at arrl.org> wrote:
>>> What's wrong with N1MM?
>>> If you start now, you'll have at least half a chance of understanding the
>>> gobbledegook which passes for help manuals.  But, you should try this in
>>> some other contest before August 24 so all the quirks can be worked out.
>>> 72/73 de n8xx Hg
>>> QRP >99.44% of the time
>>> On 6/18/2013 11:12 PM, Robert AC8GE wrote:
>>>> It looks like I will be part of a mulch-operator station from Holmes
>>>> County again. I would like to try and have the laptops networked together
>>>> for logging.
>>>> Does anyone have any suggestions on what to use that will be simple to
>>>> configure? I normally use N3FJP software and splice the logs together after
>>>> the event, but if I could network the laptops together, it would save me
>>>> the complexity of finding dupes (hopefully) and getting the serial numbers
>>>> straitened out.
>>>> Any suggestions are appreciated.
>>>> Thanks, and I hope to hear you on the air.
>>>> Robert AC8GE
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